You wrote:
I received the following
invitation from former team
members, who have left us for
various reasons (only Yahuwah
can read hearts); for certain 2
out of the 5 who left the team,
have done so months before I
learned anything about the
Lunisolar light. They, now, want
to engage us in a debate. I feel
like the history of Nehemiah is
being repeated, and that his
famous and wise words of
Nehemiah 6:3
"I
am doing a great work, so that I
cannot come down: why should the
work cease, whilst I leave it,
and come down to you?"
would be most fitting as a
response to their dubious
invitation.
Dear WLC
team member,
Yes,
hearts can not be discerned or
judged by men, and as a
clarification please note that
those 2 former team members you
referred to continued to
voluntarily work on email
responses on WLC, until WLC
adopted the current
interpretation of a lunisolar
calendar. The reply of Nehemiah
6:3 also appears to be a
"unanimous" agreement, but
please understand that we are in
no way trying to separate you
from doing "a great work", but
on the contrary, are inviting
you to continue in a public
reach out for that work. This is
just an extension to the very
work you are already doing.
Also, the intentions of the men
calling Nehemiah down was to
cause him harm. Is that how you
see us?
We
appreciate your consideration in
this.
You wrote:
It is my very STRONG conviction
that we have no business in
ever
engaging in a debate, whether as
the ProofDirectory team has
proposed or even individually
when we are sharing with
acquaintances. We have no
business stepping onto enchanted
ground and engaging in dialogue
with someone who has turned his
back on truth and whose mind may
be under the influence of fallen
angels. When we enter into a
debate, we are entering into
combat with a mind that is more
than human. Nehemiah's response
should be ours. We have no need
to debate. Our invitation is
the same to all:go
study for yourself!!
Dear WLC
team member,
If it
bothers you to look at this as a
debate, then look at this as an
opportunity to reach out, an
opportunity to answer questions
from the minds that are
confused. Please don't see or
judge that our minds may be
"under the influence of fallen
angels", for is it not true that
fallen angels flea from the
truth, rather then invite it?
Yes debate, in a manner, is
combat ground, and so is
standing for the truth. Please
do not confuse matters, for
there is a need to debate. If
you are prepared to preach the
truth, you must be equally
prepared to answer to it as
well. We have studied both the
pro and the counter, and we
invite you all to do the same.
You
wrote:
I believe that Nehemiah's
example should be our example
too: "I am doing a great work,
so that I cannot come down: why
should the work cease, whilst I
leave it, and come down to you?"
Dear WLC
team member,
Thank you for taking the time to
respond :).
You wrote:
It is never our work to
convince, that is the work of
the Holy Spirit. When any have
rejected Truth, we are to follow
the example of Yahushua, our
Saviour. When He was accused He
opened not His month, He
answered them not a word.
Our task is to present truth to
those who are hungering and
thirsting, not to debate and
argue with those who have
rejected truth. We cannot
afford the time from our work to
enter into controversies that
avail nothing.
Let us put on the Armor of Truth
and keep building up the breach
that was made in the wall.
There is a crown of life laid up
before us; let us take up the
cross of being misunderstood and
be faithful to the task that has
been given us to take truth to
all the waiting world. Let not
one penny or one voice give
traffic to their website. With
all courtesy let us refuse their
invitation. Our views are
easily available to them already
on WLC.
Dear WLC
team member,
You are
correct, the Holy Spirit comes
upon our hearts and helps us
accept or refuse what is right
or wrong. Please don't view the
above request as a request to
convince us, or anyone else, but
as mentioned before, it's simply
providing an opportunity for
people to see both sides. As you
stated, we must all be meek like
Christ under persecution, but is
that what 's going on now? Have
we said any accusation for you
to remain silent? As shared
before, it is all of our jobs to
share truth, but doesn't that
job have a responsibility as
well? I understand, as you
mentioned, that you can not
afford the time from your work
to enter into this debate, but
please understand that those who
are going to freely volunteer
for this debate are offering
time outside their work for this
cause.
You have
shared your views on WLC, and
most of it as fact, but is that
really the case? Is the
authenticity of your claims
holding up to the word? This can
only be cleared in dialogue,
rather then silence.
You wrote:
They say that their reasons for
wanting a debate is to provide a
opportunity to see both sides
and compare. Isn't that what the
WLC Team is providing already
and that is why some are
questioning their side? Only
Yah's Holy Spirit can convict no
mater how much debate. So there
is no reason for debate. Our
ever important job is to provide
Truth - not to debate it! There
is already an opportunity to
present any questions or
concerns on the WLC website. The
fact that they appear to be in
turmoil over this issue is
conformation that WLC is on the
right track!
Dear WLC
team member,
Is that
what WLC is already providing?
Are not accounts being banned
from providing counter
arguments? One was banned for
providing "Spam" which was never
reported, but why were the rest
banned? Some without even a
post, but for merely having a
relation with us. As you said,
only the Holy Spirit can
convince, but is there not also
a Spirit that can deceive? As
mentioned before, it is an
important job to provide the
truth, but also to answer for
it. Please do not judge that we
are in turmoil over this issue
and justify it as confirmation
of your paths, but we are in
turmoil over the souls being
deceived. This is why we
freely volunteered to make
the website, because of this
turmoil. In confidence of our
beliefs and its truth, that only
came with much study and prayer,
we are inviting WLC for this
discussion.
You wrote:
I would like to fourth Nehemiah
6:3.
Dear WLC
team member,
Thank you for taking the time to
respond :).
You wrote:
My reply fits to 3 lines of
their 3rd paragraph:'We believe
that in this time there will be
many distractions to diverge
away from [YAHUWAH'S] truth.'
My reply - Agreed - so why
add to it?
'It is time to end the dispute,
and reach out for those
afflicted in confusion'.
My reply - Agreed - WLC
disputes with no one, and we
reach out daily to those
afflicted.
'It is time to provide a source
for them to see both views and
to compare.'
My reply - There are 66 books in
the canon.
Dear WLC
team member,
- Not add to it, but rather
answer to it.
- There
was no accusation that WLC was
disputing, but rather that
dispute was being caused from
the seeds of doubt WLC was
throwing. For this reason a
request to end the confusion was
sent.
- The 66
books of the canon provides both
views to compare?
You wrote:
I agree with the invitation:
GO STUDY FOR YOURSELF!!!
That is what we all have done at
the first place for this
wonderful truth, entering no
debate with any one, then why
they can't do the same.
So, more than agree to apply
Nehemiah 6:3, because I love not
to any debate which is the
method of the people of this
world, not the method of
Yahushua."...We are not of this
world."
Dear WLC
team member,
This is not a matter of
requesting help for study,
though if it was it should never
be answered with "GO
STUDY FOR YOURSELF!!!"
As
previously mentioned, this is
just an opportunity to reach
out. I ask you to also not see
this as a debate, as you might
be sensitive to the word, but a
request to come preach, as the
apostles did whenever a city
requested for them to come.
You wrote:
I do believe the Bible advice us
with these verses too:
Titus 3:9-11 But avoid
foolish questions, and
genealogies, and contentions,
and strivings about the law; for
they are unprofitable and
vain.10 A man that is an heretic
after the first and second
admonition reject; Knowing that
he that is such is subverted,
and sinneth, being condemned of
himself.
Nehemiah 6:3 I
am doing a great work, so that I
cannot come down: why should the
work cease, whilst I leave it,
and come down to you?
Dear WLC
team member,
Thank you
for your response, but may I ask
you if questions to the belief
you are preaching are considered
foolish? Does Titus 3 really
apply to this context?
As for
Nehemiah 6:3, which seems to be
a favorite among the group, but
as mentioned before, are the
intentions of the men who tried
to call Nehemiah down like our
intentions?
You wrote:
I was happy to read what u all
wrote because it was very true
in responding to such
invitation, I truly believe that
truth doesn't need debates to
prove it. This world is
watching the 2 websites and all
references are available for
every truth lover. Personally, I
had the opportunity to meet the
former team and brother Sameh at
the same time while I was asking
and searching for Yahuwah's
truth and they brought no
biblical reasons for what they
believe in.
I strongly invite them to
GO AND STUDY FOR THEIR
SELVES objectively and
to stop rejecting these
priceless truth pearls which are
being revealed to us in these
last days of the world and may
Yahuwah truth shines on all who
seek to live for Him.
Dear WLC
team member,
"Such an
invitation"? I truly believe
that truth can not be debated,
for it will remain to shine out.
There is no debate with truth.
In referring to the example you
gave about the meeting, and the
accusation of not providing any
"Biblical reasons"; Did I not
say I will send them all to you
by email? Did I not do that and
was never responded to?
We
appreciate your advice to "Go
and study ...", but as mentioned
before, this is not an
invitation for help to study
which you are refusing, but
merely an opportunity to preach,
not write, your beliefs.
You wrote:
Obviously, this is a smart, move
from ProofDirectory, they ask to
host the debate on their
website, the debate is presented
as a way of helping
"truth-seekers" and reaching out
for "those afflicted in
confusion", and assure us that
if what we are preaching is true
then it will remain so...
Humanly speaking, it seems
convincing, but we are not to
engage in such disputes with
those who have openly and
adamantly rejected light, as
they admit they believe Satyrday
is the Sabbath and it remains
"unchanged as stone".
They already accuse us of
confusing people, and in order
to feel free of this guilt, we
are called to engage in public
debate. Look at the argument !
Thank Yahweh for the unanimity
of opinion among the brethren,
and thank you all for standing
for the truth and not falling
into a debate which would
consume our energies to no
avail.
Dear WLC
team member,
Thank you
for taking the time to analyze
our "move". We would rather
appreciate it if you put the
same energy to engage rather
then to analyze. We are judged
because we hold on to our view
of the Sabbath. We are judged
for the English word of
Saturday, which you even have to
misspell, and ignore the
majority of the languages that
just call it Sabbath. Does
"standing for the truth" mean
not standing for the truth? Is
an opportunity to really stand
for the truth seen as a
consumption of energy?
You wrote:
Debating is definitely a Satanic
way of destroying Yahuwah's
people, work and wasting their
precious time. Those who wanted
to be involved in a debate have
the spirit of Satan. He or
she always find ways how to win
and if possible to destroy the
person by finding their
weaknesses. Therefore we have to
reject that kind of invitation.
Dear WLC
team member,
You call
debating satanic? But what would
you call discussing truth with
those discussing? How do you
define that? Does that mean we
have spirit of satan in us? All
we are asking is for one of you
to take the time to respond to
this opportunity to reach out
for those who have questions,
who want to hear both sides.
